The .458 SOCOM has more options, but you’ll have to do more homework to find a good choice. 30-06 Springfield with the M-14 battle rifle and 7. That was a great read. Which one is better in a shorter barrel, like 16 inches? The reasons Loonwulf already mentioned are why I bought the .458 but most of the rounds I have fired have pushed bullets over 400 grains down range. Do you have data on recoil with a bolt action vs. an AR platform? First, all three cartridges are very similar in overall length: 2.26″ for the .450 Bushmaster and .458 SOCOM and 2.25″ for the .50 Beowulf. As you all might have already known, the.458 SOCOM is a big caliber. Glad you enjoyed the article Connor! They are also very affordable, making them a great alternative to the Hornady BLACK line, with a bit more punch in exchange for a bit more mess. Just another option! The 300-grain (19 g) round offers a supersonic muzzle velocity of 1,900 ft/s (580 m/s) and 2,405 ft⋅lbf (3,261 J), similar to a light .45-70 but with a much smaller case. While the tradeoff is that you’ll want to stay within 100 yards, typically, there’s no denying that with a 600-grain round, you’ll be stopping anything in its tracks. Double that, and you start looking at 1,798 FPS. Im very new to all of this and I was wondering if you could shoot 50 Beo and 450bm out of the same upper, kinda like a 223 out of a 556 situation or even 308 or 762×51 I believe. I’m looking to fill out my rifle range. Glad you enjoyed it Karl! Black Butterfly Ammunition’s Barnes TSK 300-grain rounds are excellent if you’re looking to take advantage of a larger grain without pushing it too far, meaning you’ll experience minimal side-effects that you would typically get with the largest grains, such as recoil. While it’s not as low-priced and accessible to the masses as our previous entrant, you certainly get much more than your money’s worth. I’d personally lean towards the .450 Bushmaster for wild boar, but that’s just me. The story of the .450 Bushmaster, the .458 SOCOM, and the .50 Beowulf all start with the .223 Remington and the AR-15. by plant_one » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:22 pm much of your decision may be limited to what your state allows for hunting - many states for example have areas (like the southern half of michigan) that do not allow bottle neck cartridges for deer hunting. For those looking to start out with a .458 SOCOM model fully-built, we have two excellent options. The AR-15 can only accommodate cartridges up to 2.26″ long, so all three go right up to the limit that will fit in the rifle. I Bought a Bear Creek Arsenal upper and it came with an already installed muzzle brake. This might be common sense, but the limitation in the Bushmaster’s ability to handle larger grains means you’ll be dealing with less recoil. Most .450 Bushmaster ammo typically has bullet weights in the 158gr to 300 gr range, with 250gr and 260 gr bullets being the most popular. Of the three, the .450 Bushmaster is by far the most common, but it still can’t hold a candle to cartridges like the .223 Remington or .308 Winchester. A little faster and more knock down power. The .458 SOCOM (11.63×40mm) is a moderately large round designed for a specialized upper receiver that can be mounted on any AR-15 pattern lower receiver. Used mainly for practicing with and defense from animals or bad people in the mountain area of Idaho. For comparison, that same Beowulf load would produce 30.5 ft-lbs of free recoil energy when fired from a 7.5 pound rifle. Put a small hole in them, filled with water, plugged the hole and KABLOOEY! Let’s look at the key differences: One of the biggest arguments for the .458 SOCOM is the ability to handle up to 600-grain. To start, we recommend the Xtreme Hunter Ammo 250-grain Xtreme Defense for hunters who want to optimize the velocity and penetration depth of their rounds. These models are fully optimized to handle high-grain rounds. As you can see, recoil is pretty comparable between the .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, and .50 Beowulf. Great read. Shooting a smaller 250 grain Hornady FTX was impressive. Of course, we’ve scoured the market to bring you the top three available. I reloaded so after initial expense of brass, bullets, not a big deal except those 348 Grain pellets were not cheap. So in .450 Bushmaster, a 200gr. You’ll note that maintaining this velocity in the .458 SOCOM requires dropping down to about the 140-grain. I just bought a RugerAmerican .450BM. Any advice is appreciated and I will subscribe to your podcast ASAP. However, we don’t say this feature is good or bad as it is up to your purpose. We find them to be less clean than the Hornady BLACK line, but with slightly improved accuracy and certainly a noticeable impact. While it’s not as decked out as our first entrant to the list, it’s an undeniably affordable and precise machine built to maximize the Bushmaster’s potential. The military eventually settled on the high velocity 5.56x45mm cartridge and the M-16 rifle, a military adaption of the civilian AR-15, which was itself a scaled down version of the AR-10. Lastly, another affordable solution comes to us from Radical Firearms, designed for maximum stopping power. I’ve handloaded for years, so perfect cartridges for me. I hit a 190# hog in the near side leg bone, penetrated through and hit the ball joint on the far side, smashing it to pieces. Despite their differences, it’s worth keeping in mind that these options are remarkably similar in a lot of respects. In truth, either can be better depending on your individual needs. If you want versatility in your grains and serious power within a reasonable distance, the .458 SOCOM is a great choice. Shoots under 2″ all day at 100 yards. The .450 Bushmaster might have fewer options on the market than the .458 SOCOM, but that doesn’t mean finding the best rounds is an easy task. Up close, you’ll have similar performance to lower-grain rounds. Additionally, with an average velocity consistently topping 2,000 FPS, they are reliable enough for practice or hunting large game. Thanks, super great article. Can’t wait to see the performance on deer. Firing a 300 grain bullet at 1,845 feet per second, (2,267 ft-lbs of energy), the .458 SOCOM packs a heck of a punch into a relatively small package and still functions very well in the standard AR platform with a variety of barrel lengths. If you’re looking for a versatile, light round for the .458 SOCOM to nail your target with utter precision, this is for you. On the other hand, taking down the largest game with the .450 Bushmaster requires more expertise (and gear, likely), but due to its long range it’s a great choice for taking down just about anything from any position, and the smaller the game the easier it will be to do so. Buy a quality .458 SOCOM hunting rifle here. Any law enforcement officer or court would be hard pressed to dispute “your clear intentions” of having those magazines in your possession. Hope this helps! 270 vs 308: Which One Should You Hunt With? However, they are all very similar at normal hunting ranges. Yes the follower does not have the correct radius but the 458 SOCOM follower I am using in my home built magazines only contacts the round on the two ridges molded into the follower and they work fine too. Included is a removable 10-round magazine for 10-plus-one capacity. If you’re looking for the absolute best rifle to take advantage of .458 SOCOM, this is it. Great big nasty stinky bad attitude hogs. Nice , plain spoken and yet comprehensive and widely detailed comparison! The Big Game Hunting Blog is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.ca, Amazon.com.au, and other Amazon stores worldwide. However, don’t confuse any of them, even the relatively high velocity .450 Bushmaster, with a flat shooting, long range cartridge on par with the 7mm Remington Magnum or .300 Winchester Magnum. Hornady and Bushmaster made some slight modifications to .45 Professional and released the new cartridge as the .450 Bushmaster (sometimes called the .450 BM for short). And, the bc for the 325 gn is .228. it launches at 2000fps. The same goes for Savage and Ruger with their bolt-action 110, American Ranch, and Gunsite Scout rifles. 325 gn is a good weight. He also enjoys hunting, fishing and spending time outdoors. The most awesome Demolition Ranch shirts and hats here! 450 Bushmaster vs 458 SOCOM vs 50 Beowulf: History. Everyone will have a different opinion on this aspect, but there are a fair number of options no matter what route you go. Meanwhile, this is not the case for .45-70. If you’re suspecting that the .450 Bushmaster packs less potential power but gives you greater consistent range, you are right. Like the .458 SOCOM, the .50 AE is also the parent case of the .50 Beowulf. John. A .458 SOCOM upper, allow you to keep any 30 round (5.56) mags you might have “owned or now maintain”. Colonel Jeff Cooper described a rifle he called the “Thumper” in some of his writings. Those looking for an even more affordable build to let them hit the ground running need look no further than the Ruger American Rifle Ranch Bolt-Action Rifle. Before we get started, I have an administrative note: Some of the links below are affiliate links. I’ve been looking at all 3 cartridges listed but don’t have a ton of information on how they would perform out of a 10″ barrel with supressor or something similar. So let’s really parse down what the differences and similarities amount to in practice. Coming in at an excellent price point is the Ruger AR-556 Semi-Auto Rifle, offering direct-impingement with a carbine-length gas system. The table below compares the recoil produced by those same loads when fired from a Ruger AR-556 (.450 Bushmaster), a Wilson Combat Ultimate Hunter (.458 SOCOM), an Alexander Arms Tactical (.50 Beowulf), and a lever action Marlin Model 1895 (.45-70 Govt). There are many brands available, though, so to really maximize its potential it’s important to make the right choice. As I am moving into boar hunting, this article provided a lot of insight for my consideration in selecting rounds for new pursuits. Indeed, the .450 Bushmaster has a clear advantage over the .458 SOCOM and .50 Beowulf out past 200 yards. So, deer, feral hogs, and black bear are all fair game with any of them. Often referred to as “green tip ammo” because of the green paint on the bullet, the US Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine Corps formally adopted the M855 along with the updated M-16A2 rifle during the 1980s. Interestingly, their recoil is only slightly more than the low pressure .45-70 load and considerably less than the high pressure .45-70 load when fired from a slightly lighter Marlin Model 1895 rifle. Felt recoil will vary from shooter to shooter and rifle to rifle, but free recoil energy is still a useful way to compare cartridges. 223 Remington and the AR-15. The older model was quite famous among seasoned hunters for the carefully-crafted nose flute which provides this excellent performance. Do you primarily hunt deer sized game at ranges less than 200 yards? .22 bolt (from grandfather), 10-22 takedown, 6mm on a Mauser 98 action (made for father in law–it’s back), M1 30-06 CDMP (when they were only 150.00), H&K 91 (308)(before clinton became president & band them), 6.5 Creedmore (won it at NRA annual meeting from Shaw Barrels–check them out great people). All three cartridges are solid performers and there is quite a bit of overlap in their capabilities. As you can see, while there are indeed some small differences in the ballistics of the three cartridges, they all fall neatly in between the low and high pressure .45-70 loads in terms of power and trajectory. This makes it perfect for large game such as hogs or even bears, without the need to dive too deep into your build. The .458 SOCOM uses 200gr to 600gr bullets, with 250gr, 300gr, and 350gr being the most common. The 458 will have mild slop in the 450 AR-bolt face and the extractor wont fully seat, slightly deceiving as it clears the case body at the groove. They are made of the same material and have the same finish/surface treatment. One of the disadvantages of the 450 Bushmaster is the amount of recoil associated with the round… For a skilled shooter, he can aim at a buffalo exactly with .45-70. If you’re being fair and comparing the performance of both at, say, 100 yards, you’ll experience less recoil with most builds when using the .450 Bushmaster. At 1.7″, the .450 Bushmaster has a longer case length than the .458 SOCOM (1.575″) and .50 Beowulf (1.65″). By the way, hats off for Bear Creek Arsenal. As mentioned above, the.458 SOCOM and.450 Bushmaster barrels share most of the features. Which if you happen to live in CA (Communist America or Kalifornia), which I used to, is an excellent point to consider. The barrel has been cold hammer-forged for great precision, while a 70-degree lift provides ample clearance between the riflescope and bolt handle. thanks jim. So while meat loss will not be excessive with either one, the .450 will probably destroy a little more meat than the 300 Blackout. Answered ALL of the questions I had. Heck, it even shares the same bullet diameter as the old .450 Nitro Express. As a general rule, if you’d feel comfortable hunting it with a .45-70, then you can probably ethically hunt it with any of these cartridges as well. Why get a fully-built model instead of swapping out your barrel? One of the biggest arguments for the .458 SOCOM is the ability to handle up to 600-grain. There are many other great choices from Underwood, with the 250-grain ammunition above being our top pick for the lower-grain option to take down a wide range of game with precision and minimal recoil. As your charts demonstrated, the energy of the .450 beats all the others. They’re all very effective on a wide variety of game at short to moderate range. Lastly, we have good old Winchester’s Deer Season XP Rifle Ammunition. 50 Beowulf all start with the . I also have a .350 Legend from them. When it comes to a range of power, that’s absolutely incredible and is certainly sufficient for handling larger game. It’s important to keep in mind that this only matters insofar as the game that you’re looking to take down—if you’re looking to hunt deer, the .450 Bushmaster is more than capable. No, none of these cartridges are interchangeable because (unlike the 223 and 5.56 or 308 and 7.62×51) they all shoot different diameter bullets. If you’re shooting from a close to medium range and using a 250-grain round, there’s honestly not much difference. I find as a reloader that I can get much better performance than described from my 50BW. While the grain is limited, a skillful shooter should be able to take down the largest of game with 250-grain rounds. The chart below compares how much a 10 mile per hour crosswind impacts those same .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, 50 Beowulf, and .45-70 loads out to 300 yards.Once again we see that the .450 Bushmaster load outperforms all the others in terms of wind drift and the .50 Beowulf comes in last. While we’d take the Custom Centerfire Rifle Ammo for its moderately improved performance, the unbeatable value of the BLACK line makes it a great choice as stock rounds for any occasion, whether simply out having fun or bringing home big game. Personally, I wouldn’t have a BCA. All three are also excellent choices for law enforcement and home defense use. Designed by Alexander Arms, the .50 Beowulf was actually the first of these three big bore AR cartridges to hit the market and, firing .500″ bullets, is the largest of the group. While I am fairly ignorant on the semi auto rifle platforms described, I am an avid hunter looking to expand the range of animals I can hunt, cook, and eat. Great article. Also, the higher mag capacity for the Socom is another factor. Equipped with a polymer tip that retains energy and long-range accuracy, as well as a large-diameter point that expands immediately on impact, these rounds are designed to bring game down quickly. Rather than just swapping out the barrel, get a model built from the ground up with features like a custom suppressor to tame the .450 Bushmaster. The same goes for the quality of rifles available, which varies considerably. What grain are you using? Giving you a standardized mil-spec AR-15 lower and a direct-impingement gas system, along with a 16-inch barrel constructed from mil-spec 4150 steel with a Melonite-treated finish, it’s an excellent option for durability and precision alike. 450 Bushmaster is always well-known for its flat trajectory. The one point I’d add is that the .458 was designed specifically to function using GI mags, of which I and most of my friends own many. Good stuff priced right! Make sure you follow The Big Game Hunting Blog on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. could not decide on 458 or 450. Reloading is rapid and easy with a detachable, single-column box magazine. 62x51mm NATO in the 1950s, the US military again began the search for a new rifle and cartridge. Unfortunately, most game does not come up to greet you, so range is preferable to many hunters, especially if they’ve got the chops and gear to go long-range. That said, there are some assumptions being made here, primarily in regards to skill and equipment, as well as shooting style. There is also a .936” micro gas block, a stainless carbine-length gas tube, and a Radical Firearms brand Panzer 49/64-20 Brake. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content that’s useful to hunters like yourself. Availability, expense of ammo, performance, components and all all other factors tell me the .450 is the best choice all around. Actually, this holds true even when dealing with comparable grains. Bushmaster was the first gun manufacturer to produce firearms in .450 Bushmaster, Tromix was the original firearms manufacturer for the .458 SOCOM, and Alexander Arms developed the first rifles in .50 Beowulf. In all, it moves at 2,000 FPS with 2,220 ft-lbs of energy. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This goes along with compatibility, but if you’re considering opting for one or the other, the only thing you strictly need is the appropriate barrel. These issues led to the development of several larger caliber cartridges featuring heavier bullets designed to function in AR-15 rifles like the .300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendel, the 6.8 Remington SPC (also known as the 6.8 SPC), the .450 Bushmaster, the .458 SOCOM and the .50 Beowulf during the 1990s and early 2000s. The .450 Bushmaster can’t handle even half of that. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Clash Of The Speed Demons, Best 308 Ammo For Hunting Deer, Elk, Hogs, & Other Game, Best 7mm-08 Ammo For Hunting Elk, Deer & Other Game, 6.5 Creedmoor vs 300 Win Mag Review & Comparison, Best 7mm Rem Mag Ammo For Hunting Elk, Deer & Other Game, 6.5 Creedmoor vs 243 Winchester Review & Comparison, 6.5 Creedmoor vs 7mm-08 Remington Review & Comparison, 6.5 Grendel vs 308: Everything You Need To Know, Essential Muzzleloader Supplies Every Hunter Needs In 2021, The 300 Ultra Mag (300 RUM): Your Complete Guide, 6.8 SPC vs 6.5 Grendel: What You Need To Know, 6.5 PRC: Ultimate Guide To What You Need To Know. Clearly, this falls far short of the 600-grain potential of the .458 SOCOM. Because the .458 SOCOM is built for a wider grain range, most builds and components don’t zero in on a predictable amount of recoil as they do with the .450 Bushmaster. Featuring a user-adjustable weight-of-pull with the Marksman Adjustable trigger, you’ll enjoy crisp and light, precise shooting. Next, you’ll enjoy a rifle-length gas system with an SLR Rifleworks Adjustable Gas Block, a 14.6” M-LOK rail, a three-section Magpul Type 1 rail covers, a Rogers/Wilson Super-Stoc, a Wilson Combat TTU M2, a low-mass bolt carrier made from nickel-boron, a BCM charging handle, an excellent starburst gunfighter grip, and an Armor-Tuff finish to the fully anodized upper and lower receivers.
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